Maybe someone will draw fanart of the novel only scenes. That'd be pretty cool! Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 23 comments Show 23 comments 8D (Anonymous) 2013-10-27 06:19 am (UTC)(link) my wishful thinking is a live action based on the novel. But this is like 1000% impossible... Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 1 comment Show 1 comment no subject sinnesspiel 2013-10-29 07:03 pm (UTC)(link) Probably more likely than an anime extension, at any rate. Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent no subject airlynx 2013-10-27 11:09 pm (UTC)(link) Yeah I guess you can't escape the bishounen factor. If only they made like, extra OVAs of novel scenes!
Ooh! *raises hand* I volunteer as a tribute! Can I like, illustrate the subchapters? I would love to and it'd be like giving back in return for an awesome translation! Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 20 comments Show 20 comments no subject sinnesspiel 2013-10-28 01:09 am (UTC)(link) The studio/staff have all moved on to other projects too, sadly. I'm glad we got the OAVs we did, they were really fantastic bits, but I'd take shameless fanservice scenes happily too.
If you want to, go for it! That'd be cool to see! Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 19 comments Show 19 comments Hello from school! airlynx 2013-10-29 06:34 pm (UTC)(link) Do you know if the same studio has made any more anime? The parts that they did animate they animated really well and I'd loove to see more of their work. As I understand it it's not their fault they didn't do every novel bit because they based it off the manga (except for the ending)?
I would!! If possible I'd try to illustrate each subchapter - is there any thing in specific from past chapters you'd like to see drawn? Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 18 comments Show 18 comments Studying hard? sinnesspiel 2013-10-29 06:57 pm (UTC)(link) Daume's done a couple other series but they mostly do in-between animation work. Their current big series (they're working on, but not full-stop producing) is Shingeki no Kyoujin, which is pretty popular but that I just can't get into. I can't think of anything else they've produced in-house since Shiki, but I've seen their name here and there in FMA and other credits and such.
The manga wasn't finished by the time the anime was and an anime script is usually done at the very least a month in advance of its airing date, so I assume they went to the novel for unfinished portions of the story. The pipeline bit was more novel based than manga based, but I'd have to check the airing/publishing dates of each chapter to presume the manga not being that far along yet was the reason. I know some of the seiyuu read the novel as they talked about it in interviews and on the radio show, but I'd presume some of the production staff did, too.
Seishin being all "...masaka," about the danger, only to grab a broom and go about checking the house in fear of wolves would be very amusing to see... Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 17 comments Show 17 comments 97% sure my teacher is an anime fan airlynx 2013-10-31 04:02 am (UTC)(link) Oh Shingeki no Kyoujin...I have strong, mixed feelings about that anime. At first I saw the advertisements for it and I thought it was some weird mecha series but then actually Tumblr convinced me to check it out so one day I stayed home sick so I just watched the four episodes that were out and they were action packed, with gorgeous animation and awesome music. I was like, awesome!!! and prepared myself for a whole series of the same thing.
It's that kind of rare show where it can make an otherwise epic moment totally monotonous by dragging it the hell out, like exhibit A: towards the end, they're running away form a bunch of titans and nobody knows what to do, so what do they do? THEY MAKE A WHOLE DAMN EPISODE ABOUT NOBODY KNOWING WHAT TO DO. I loved the horrorstruck feeling I got when I watched the tragic end of Eren's home life, but seeing a bunch of innocent people get nastily chomped on gets way old. that sounds horrible but it was so repetitive and they just had the scenes cut to people being killed, to people being confused, to Eren looking intense, THE WHOLE FRICKIN EPISODE. Shingeki no Kyoujin more like shingeki no SNAIL BECAUSE THAT IS THE PACE OF THAT ANIME!! But also I gotta commend it because while it was so boring I could cry, each episode had that little dash of awesome that made me want to tune in next time...and the time after that...and the time after that...until the series ended just like it began, with an action packed episode. So yeah. I didn't mean this to turn into a review of snk, but eh. I'd say it's good, but not as good as the hype makes you believe. Kind of like the new Kill la Kill.
Yeah, if I was a seiyuu I'd read the hell out of the book. I wish they had adapted it directly from the book...I'm really glad the ending was from the novel because I think it would have been a lot weaker if it were based off of the manga. I wonder how the characters would look if they didn't use the mangaka's designs...
Okay!! I'm deliberating between adapting the characters as they appear in the anime into my art style or making them look totally different. I don't think I'll make them look totally different, because it wouldn't be the same (duh). Seishin's clothes are going to be hard to get right. I'm glad you asked me to do that scene because I wanted to also, I have the exact picture in my head. It will be fabulous. Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 16 comments Show 16 comments That should be interesting. sinnesspiel 2013-10-31 07:07 am (UTC)(link) I don't remember how far I got, I think episode 5 or so, but the flaws you named pretty much sum up why I didn't continue. I love me some misery and grit but it felt like style covering for a lack of substance. It's popular and I'm plebeian enough to like most popular stuff, but having spoilered myself, nothing suggests it'd veer off the route it was taking for those first episodes I watched, which likely means it's just not for me.
I ended up fond enough of the character designs as ridiculous as they are, or maybe it's more that I ended up fond enough of the characters to like even their designs. It seems in the novel he's not in monk robes 24/7 like he is in the anime; I wonder what, exactly, he wears when dressed casually? If the end of the manga is any indication of his sense of style, suddenly I'm understanding why people whisper about him like some kind of weirdo... Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 15 comments Show 15 comments She had a Berserk character as an example on this powerpoint airlynx 2013-11-02 01:46 am (UTC)(link) I wouldn't waste my time on it but it was a nice thing to tune in to every Sunday. Judging by the manga, it has more than enough material for a season 2, and it definitely had enough success for a sequel. If there was a sequel I'd watch it but if there wasn't, I wouldn't be too sad.
Haha, your icon has Seishin looking like he's checking out his fresh mani. His face is like, "Dammit, I chipped my nail polish. AGAIN. I didn't drive all the way to Mizobe for nails that don't even last 48 hours, screw it all." Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 14 comments Show 14 comments ....An example of WHAT, exactly? sinnesspiel 2013-11-03 12:01 am (UTC)(link) I would be absolutely shocked if there were no season 2 given its massive popularity, if the material exists. Then again, they didn't make a sequel to Sword Art Online, the last (terrible, IMO) fad canon.
And, wanting to assure Muroi-san she understood him too, that it wasn't just Tatsumi, Sunako's clothing got a lot more ridiculous after hecame to Kanemasa, too. Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 13 comments Show 13 comments An expy of Robin Goodfellow from Midsummer Nights Dream airlynx 2013-11-05 10:24 pm (UTC)(link) If there was season 2 they'd probably have a big enough budget to stretch out the scenes even MORE and it'll be even more impossible to watch. I mean, 5+ episode long battles are okay if it's Bleach but snk has like 24 episodes like c'mon you can't just drag it out that much! Really did you think Sword Art Online was bad? I keep planning to watch it but would you say it's not worth it?
The Kirishiki house is so big because it needs to have a runway inside it to show off the latest trends. With Yoshie as the announcer because she wears normal stuff...as does Dr. Ebuchi (do we see more of him in the novel? The anime featured him long enough for me to fanonically reject his existence) Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 12 comments Show 12 comments I read that play but remember nothing beyond it being a 4-person orgy, and there was a goat. sinnesspiel 2013-11-06 03:03 am (UTC)(link) I didn't like SAO, but it was pretty popular so it must have had some appeal. It just felt like a more predictable version of the .hack series with an insufferably bland protagonist to me. But maybe I'm just an old fogey; .hack was big in its day, and I suspect most SAO fans weren't around when .hack was new so it's probably fairly new to them.
But the original novel just got a new translation a couple of years back! Soo much better than the old one. If you get a chance to read it...definitely read it!
Wellllll, the first book can be interpreted as being about food actually, but after that it's more like about revolution and rebelling against the government and...it's like Suzanne Collins wrote a fanfiction about Battle Royale which became Hunger Games, and then actually came up with her own original ideas in form of Catching Fire and Mockingjay. I'm reluctant to say that she's a big ol' plagiarist, but...
- In both B.R. and H.G., the couple survives at the end (but in Battle Royale they do so by stabbing the big bad to death with a pencil, so it's a lot more awesome)
That's too bad because I read Collins' other work, Gregor the Overlander, back in the day and I found it pretty original (albeit trippy) Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 6 comments Show 6 comments Don't judge her for her bara love! sinnesspiel 2013-11-13 11:33 am (UTC)(link) Any chance it's homage rather than plagiarism? Though as far as I know there's no public acknowledgement of the inspiration by BR, if it adds a new angle and enough unique aspects to stand as an independent work, I'd forgive it. I see Shiki like that compared to Salem's Lot. If you removed the similarities, there's enough to stand on, and the parts that are not "loyal" to the original distinctly support independent themes, plot and character elements.
I have no idea if that's the case or not with HG and I have no intent to ever read/see it, less so now that I know it's another "poor people at the merciless and mindlessly sadistic whims of the rich" story. Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 5 comments Show 5 comments It's un"bara"ble to be in her class now! airlynx 2013-11-16 05:30 am (UTC)(link) But if it was homage, why would she try to hide it? She should've just put "To Battle Royale" on the inside front cover or something. Plus she got asked if she has read Battle Royale before and she said she never heard of it until people started accusing her of plagiarism. That's...I don't know, if I was doing a homage I would think that the original work deserved a recognition for it.
I think the Hunger Games book itself is pretty good, and the main character is really unique when compared to other YA heroines. But the movie sucked, don't see the movie! It also has that "the media is glamorizing people and turning into objects" aspect which is true I guess, but if I want social justice I shall log on to Tumblr. Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 4 comments Show 4 comments Take it like a man. A Bara Man. sinnesspiel 2013-11-16 05:57 am (UTC)(link) Ah, so she never even acknowledged knowing about Battle Royale? Now that I would find suspect. Survival-thrillers do use a lot of tropes, so I might forgive the "couple survives at the end" (it's Western popular fiction---we're not known over here for being willing to have unhappy endings, much less killing off beloved characters, particularly lately). I could even see typical survival thrillers running with the "need medicine for the poor innocent, sympathetic non-combatant" (I happen to know of Peeta--someone RP'ed him at my game for a while. Literally all I know is he's a baker, though.) but the leg part, and the sheer number of similarities I've heard about would make me wonder. If she hadn't said she's never seen it, I'd have even granted that maybe she didn't realize how much it influenced her, but...
Yeah, Collins also said in an interview that she asked her editor if she should read Battle Royale, but he said no because he doesn't want it to influence her work...
You haven't missed out on a lot; I like going to movies, but the problem is that most movies suck, and the ones that I do want to go to, nobody wants to go with me! Well, just stick to what you like. Some people don't watch/read anime/manga so they don't watch/read it and stick to live action. It can go both ways! Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 2 comments Show 2 comments Cue the Rose (Bara) Duels from Utena, only now with Bara Men... and women? Bara women...? sinnesspiel 2013-11-17 03:55 am (UTC)(link) Compulsory entertainment combat is pretty common, especially if you count poor guys getting into boxing just to pay the bills (Rocky, Cinderella Man) all Marxist Wage Slavery style rather than strictly "this evil all rich or powerful source is forcing you to fight others JUST BECAUSE EVIL" (Deadman Wonderland, Mirai Nikki, Gantz). The survivalist portion a little less so but not utterly unique (Battle Royale, B'Toom--which makes no attempt to pretend it has no connection to BR). The more it narrows down, the more differences I'd expect in order to not call it plagiarism.
Are combat groups made up exclusively of middle/high school aged characters (not the case in any of the above at all beyond Battle Royale)?
Are there danger zones to shrink down the play area in order to impose a time limit, or rules about having to kill so many people in x time period (not the case in any of the above beyond BR)?
Many of the plot arcs you mentioned seemed to be fairly specific to BR, too (thought he "past winner" aspect comes into play in Mirai Nikki, it's in a completely different way than "mentor to the main couple").
There's a long history of western remakes of Japanese properties, particularly movies, so a little acknowledgement certainly wouldn't hurt her at all. So on the other hand I guess there's no reason for her to lie. That said, I find it fairly dubious that she'd never heard of Battle Royale while doing any form of research her books may have required. Non-otaku do know of it. It was fairly huge. Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 1 comment Show 1 comment Even Bara is co-ed these days... airlynx 2013-12-03 04:05 am (UTC)(link) I wouldn't attack Suzanne Collins just for the overarching idea, but those little details in the books sometimes really show. I wouldn't mind her mooching a little off Battle Royale if she acknowledged it, like yeah, Battle Royale is a great story and it has the ability to inspire others to create stories off of it (another attribute of a great story). So just dismissing it absolutely erases my respect for her. And like you said, any self-respecting author would research the material she is about to write about. No way would she miss Battle Royale. Maybe I hate her because she got away with it; everyone just sees her as this great storyteller who came up with it on her own, when I know that's (probably--but I'm pretty solid in my reasoning that it is) not true. I don't know if this is relevant, but she also kind of avoids interviews. She got an interview in Time magazine for the first time in two years, supposedly. Afraid of a Freudian slip? Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Tenses (Anonymous) 2016-06-04 07:44 pm (UTC)(link) So I think Japanese only has one past tense, but there are some passages especially in this chapter which could benefit from the "had done" past tense(i forget its name)? The bit I'm thinking about is the Yuu-chan's mother bit, I may just be a bit slow but because of the tense used it took me a while to realise she was dead. Either way, thanks so much for this, I'm really enjoying it :) Thread Reply to this