Sooo that's what the 'parishioner' part means. I was confused. Those men are practically the same, haha. Childhood friends are so nice, their family think of the other kid as family too (with exception of Toshio's parents obviously)
And the part where Toshio talks to Seishin about 'Seishin' too! He's perhaps giggling slightly inside. He perhaps will laugh if his meeting Seishin is not about something serious.
This chapter is one of those medical chapters. I don't always understand what Toshio says myself, and sometimes I have to look it up. This chapter, for example. Toshio still talks like he expects people to immediately understand (or he's just excited and want someone to talk to himself), and Seishin has the patience of a saint. Though Seishin perhaps doesn't really listen to what he says when his medical textbook comes out. Seishin perhaps doesn't have the heart to tell Toshio off for that. Toshio is actually considerably chatty.
Aaand finally, the term 'Shiki' is no longer Seishin and Sunako's secret only! Thread Reply to this Thread Hide 2 comments Show 2 comments Re: 8DDDDD sinnesspiel 2014-05-07 12:01 am (UTC)(link) Any other good news today (or from 5/3/14) that you wanted to celebrate? Glad I could add to the day!
I wonder if Seishin's more familiar with medical terminology for having sat through so many of Ozaki's rants, or from having heard about deaths through him as part of the job? I'd go with your "patience" theory, given he doesn't seem to grasp what Ozaki's saying here: that what's happening (symptoms of severe blood loss without any external or internal bleeding, nor any blood production problem) is just as medically, scientifically impossible as vampires. Less so actually; there are animals that subside on blood in the world and who can consume it without leaving huge gaping wounds. It also seems Seishin just looked into SLE rather than ask Toshio--granted, he seems a bit busy to be pestering with stupid questions, but it seems that Sunako is still Seishin's little secret... Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Thread Hide 1 comment Show 1 comment Re: 8DDDDD (Anonymous) 2014-05-07 08:49 am (UTC)(link) 8D -- on 5/3 I got total 3 greatness! They are all fandom related, (2 are not Shiki-related) but they sure have kept my spirit high til today. Today is another usual day, only that I have upcoming exam on 12th... Wish me luck! 8D
Seishin is also intelligent that he can somehow keep up with Toshio's medical rants, undoubtedly. Given that he doesn't have problems with researching things on his own. Though, in my opinion, Toshio is too keen on using medical terms while he actually doesn't really need to do so. It seems to me that he's like talking to another med student rather than to a person who's not medical based. So it's not just a matter of severe blood loss symptoms without external or internal bleeding -- Seishin doesn't actually need to know about normocytic normochromic anemia and 2 other types of anemia, Coombs' test, SIRS, LDH, many others. Unless he's say, a thalassemia patient who needs to know about hemolysis and things regarding that, effects and so on. Toshio could explains things in ways that ordinary people can get, but he doesn't. (granted, it's a headache too, having to explain what every term means). Though for all I know, Toshio doesn't do this to Mikiyasu and other people, sooo it's also because Seishin 'spoils' Toshio too much. When you 'tolerate' people to the point of not telling them off when they need to be, in a way you're becoming ignorant. But obviously it's not as simple as that, these things about social dilemmas. Bet Seishin is a kind who often gets caught in lots of dilemmas. Perhaps Seishin also realizes that Toshio really needs a person to rant on, what with the kinds of patients he gets on daily basis. Though he perhaps also lets people do what they want because he doesn't want to be nagged on as long as they don't cross the line. Perhaps also because he adores Toshio. But since the beginning, I'd say that he's already been blessed with patience. He has amazing inner strength. (a self-sacrificing, servant-of-others type)
In the end, Seishin is still a terribly private person, so he prefers keeping things to himself. Thread Reply to this Thread from start Parent Title drop at the end airlynx 2014-05-04 11:10 pm (UTC)(link) Yay, it's back! And it's finally getting serious. I liked the Waka interaction in this one; to me, it really hit how much Ozaki is comfortable with Seishin to be able to tell him that hypothesis. And for a man of science, Ozaki is really accepting of vampires. That shows just how much of a loss he is at here; he could have pressed any other plausible medical explanation, except there are none. "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." And he also cares about saving the patients, because to pursue such an improbable lead means that he is even willing to seem like he's crazy in front of his best friend if there's even a slim chance that he can solve this himself.
I like how it was written from Seishin's point of view, so that with all his medi-babble, Ozaki sounded like he was raving; if it was from Ozaki's point of view, it would have seemed more rational. This also foreshadows how Ozaki's theory wouldn't be accepted by the villagers easily--even Seishin doubts him. Also it parallels Ozaki's conversation with Natsuno when the latter was asking about Megumi being alive, something that would have sounded kind of stupid to Ozaki. Now, Ozaki sounds kind of stupid to Seishin. And both Ozaki and now Seishin have started thinking of the outbreak as something supernatural, even if they (Seishin) doesn't believe it yet. It's ironic how Seishin, who is more superstitious and dreamy than Ozaki, is less open to the idea of it being vampires.
Grammar Nazi time!
- "It's because I'm usually in the office. ---Wo what is it?" Is 'wo' just like 'whoa'?
- total idiot, believes that diseases are the result of being possessed
- doctor
Conclusion: I want more Ozaki monologues.
I also think that gathering information probably wouldn't help, but that's because most of the characters who see something supernatural (for instance, one-half of our favorite OTP, Atsushi, trespasses by the Kirishiki house and feels watched) think that it's something stupid and they don't talk about it because they won't be taken seriously. They definitely wouldn't want to bother the esteemed Junior Monk with their experiences if he came asking around...or maybe they'd feel it's odd that he would do that, and grow more confident about their misgivings, and be more willing to voice them. I just think it would be an interesting plotline if Ono had written it that way. The only one who actually does share his misgivings is Natsuno, and even he didn't get taken seriously...at first.
I like the development of Sotoba as a village throughout the story; for such an idyllic community, supposedly, they have so many secrets from one another. But that's realistic (which is also a great part about Shiki) because there's no way to know absolutely everything about an individual.
I enjoyed the nonverbal communication between Seishin and Ozaki too! Part of it has to do with the fact that I just like seeing my favorite character one-up a character I still don't like. Their friendship is amazingly written, because even their conversations just sound so effortless, showing that they've had conversations with each other for years and years and feel comfortable with each another. But just like the villagers, Seishin and Ozaki have secrets from one another...mostly Seishin, though. At first glance, it seems like Ozaki's the careless one since he has to be told off by Seishin for not reporting the disease, and since he messes with him by putting out his essays--but Seishin has meetings with Sunako that he keeps from Ozaki, and he also doesn't discuss his thoughts with him. I don't know about the novel, but in the anime, even after they've confirmed the existence of vampires and Seishin has basically found out that Sunako is one, he doesn't feel guilty for keeping it from Ozaki. Right now in the novel, he doesn't seem to, either. I wonder if he's just that kind of person or if it's because of Ozaki.
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